A Little Expat Living… Cost of Living in Chiang Mai, Thailand (2023)
Last updated on August 17, 2023
So, you’re researching how much your life will cost elsewhere in the world and you’re considering living in Thailand. There’s a lot of information to sort through now.
When I moved to Chiang Mai a decade ago, the city was a very different place for expats (digital nomads were scarce but retirees aplenty), and information was nonexistent about what it would actually cost to live there.
This post was essentially the first online Thailand cost of living breakdown, sharing the nitty gritty details of what your money buys in Thailand, what costs more than back home, and how your own goals might align to moving somewhere in the country (digital nomads and retirees tend to choose a handful of key hotspots around the country).
This idyllic setting is just a short drive from Chiang Mai, even though it looks like it could be from a ranch in the U.S. The fact is, Thailand offers a wide range of places you can live for an affordable cost of living.
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How the Cost of Living Has Changed in Past 10 years
Since it’s hard to know what’s hyperbole in these types of guides, and how your mileage will vary, this guide—and all of my guides to the cost of living around the world—thoroughly cover factors that move the needle on helping you decide if Thailand is the right place to call your future home. This post demystifies the cost of living in Thailand, as well as covers a range of opinions on what it costs to live in the different areas.
Let’s talk in general about why Chiang Mai, Bangkok, and other Thai cities are among the most popular expat and digital nomad locations. It comes down to the low cost of living paired with incredible culture and amazing food. These three factors alone contribute to the massive number of retirees who have known about Thailand for years—it’s no secret to them that your money goes far here.
But when I arrived in 2011, the term “digital nomad” was in its infancy. A handful of travel bloggers decided to hang out in Chiang Mai for a winter/spring season; we loved all three of those factors, and so we came back the next season, and then many just moved to Thailand permanently (yes, it’s possible).
This was my favorite vegetarian food vendor—she prepares food at Chiang Mai Gate and was a staple in my diet while I lived in Thailand.
Since then, (and really since I wrote this post, which went viral and was featured on the BBC, among other outlets) Chiang Mai lured other digital nomads with a low cost of living, the promise of good wifi, and a community of others who work remotely. Within a couple of years, Chiang Mai and Ho Chi Minh City became the hotspots in Southeast Asia for entrepreneurs interested in low living costs so they could build and launch businesses.
In 2011, my baselinecost of living for Chiang Mai came in at $485—this number excludes visas, visa runs, personal travel, and annual travel insurance). Adjusted for 2023, as you’ll see below, many digital nomads can live on a baseline of $650 a month. Again, excluding expenses that run annually like insurance, or quarterly like visa runs—these add hundreds of dollars to your average costs, but they will also vary depending on your own insurance costs, costs of running a business, and varying visa costs for some people.
Retirees live a bit of a different life—they often buy a condo outright and then have baseline costs of $800 to $1200 for retirees, accounting for healthcare and other expenses and an easier visa situation. Any way you slice the budget though, it’s more affordable to live in Thailand if you’re able to make a living online. I’ve paid rent everywhere from Barcelona to Oaxaca to Orlando to Los Angeles, and my Thailand living costs averaged a third of my previous U.S. living expenses (and about a third of my current expenses in Spain).
Morning alms giving—when monks walk the streets of the city to receive food from locals—takes place across Thailand.
As with many places, you’ll face a tradeoff living in some areas. Political instability, road conditions, and smog are just a few of the downsides—we’ll cover how those affect where in Thailand you might want to live. Although I’m surely in the “digital nomad” category, I’ve included many links and resources to help those at any stage of their lives. Retirees with a monthly social security check more easily secure long-term visas since they align more with the type of foreigners Thailand prefers living there full time.
Note that cities and towns across Thailand not only have different costs of living, but the profile of the communities differs, too. Thailand offers a huge, varied, and vibrant expat community. We’ll cover it all, plus your quality of life, what your money buys, and how to know if moving to Thailand is right for you.
Why Move to Thailand?
When I moved to Chiang Mai in 2011, I had this suspicion that I could maintain a fun and full life without obsessing about my expenses. To make this travel life work, I needed to lower my cost of living to keep in line with my online income. I was building my SEO consulting work while also paying off student loans and medical debt, so I had prioritized becoming debt-free within two years.
Although I could have moved back to my hometown in Florida and likely saved some costs by pinching pennies, living as a poor person in Florida is not an awesome life—I did that for 20+ years. Frankly, the best way for me to not go further into debt was to stay outside of the U.S. If you’re a digital nomad on a tight budget, or a retiree with a fixed social security check, you understand the core desire for a low cost of living even if your circumstances differ.
So I moved to Thailand, talked to others, and discovered everyone’s core motivations for moving there came down to a few key areas. Medical care can be a major motivating factor. Thailand offers among of the top hospitals in Southeast Asia, checkups are affordable, and dental care is on par with the U.S. When you move to Thailand, you don’t live in fear of getting sick and burying yourself under medical debt—Thai health insurance is moderately priced and it works. If you’re looking for a place that can support any of your current or future health issues, it’s a compelling factor.
Thai Culture
Buddhism reigns in Thailand—this is a shot of just the cutest temple that I always loved passing on my way home.
There’s also the culture. Thai culture is lived out in the open at the markets and in the many celebrations that take place throughout the year (Loy Krathong, Umbrella Festival, and Songkran to name just three). It’s a vibrant culture and a fun one to access as an expat instead of as a passing tourist.
So much underneath the culture is impossible to absorb during a two-week trip of the country’s “best of” highlights. That culture extends into the truly exceptional culinary traditions (you will eat your face off!), but also the sheer number of international influences (you can still find sushi and decent Mexican in the bigger cities!).
Expat Community
My niece and I spent Christmas in Thailand while we lived there for six months together, and the other expats in our community made it extra special for us both.
The expat community is another compelling reason to consider Thailand. More than many places I’ve lived over the years, including Mexico and Spain, Thailand has a truly unique range of expats. The community is huge and varies in each region, which means most expats can find something to love and a place they’ll enjoy calling their new home.
In some places, the community is retirees hoping to stretch their nest-egg and enjoy their twilight years, while elsewhere offers concentrated packs of digital nomads looking to bootstrap a business from Southeast Asia. And within both of those communities is any and everything in between—some living there for the culture or the food, and some for shadier reasons that I won’t get into. It’s a mixed bag.
Lower Carbon Footprint
I supported the Akha Ama social enterprise during all of my time living in Thailand.
For me, I chose to live in Thailand for two years because it fulfilled many of my long-term goals. I lived a more minimalist life (I am a huge fan of the tiny house movement!), but it was not sparse. I love beauty and spending money on things I value.
I lived in a Thai neighborhood, I volunteered locally and I ate locally, I made friends widely in the expat and Thai communities, and I spent my days working when I needed to, but not slavishly tied to my computer in a bid to constantly make more money. Living in Thailand allowed me to enjoy a slower life alongside some of my now closest friends.
Visas to Live in Thailand
Chiang Mai is a great launching point to other areas in Asia for in-depth explorations of Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore and other quick flights and bus rides around Southeast Asia. If you’ve retired in Thailand, you don’t have to run to the border. And some friends have student visas for studying Thai, and they also don’t do visa runs. If you’re doing visa applications and visa runs, your costs are higher and your ability to stay long-term is also precarious (Thailand is cracking down on the number of back-to-back visas it will issue).
This situation was made even more precarious and impossible in the wake of 2020’s lockdowns—those not legally living in Thailand on long-term visas faced challenges as many nations across Asia (and the world) closed their borders for months on end. It highlighted the fact that you should find a legal visa option for your situation so you can settle in and enjoy your new life in Thailand.
What Does It Cost to Live in Thailand?
Living in Thailand comes down to two things: your baseline costs (fixed monthly expenses), and your personal lifestyle, which you add onto the top of those costs. Foreigners will have baseline living costs of USD $600 minimum. That’s in a place like Chiang Mai or smaller cities—it will cost more to live in the Thai island, Bangkok, or retiree hotspots. This figure is used as a minimum—these estimates do not include the visa runs you’ll need if you’re on a tourist visa. Even with the double entry visa, border runs are necessary every 60-90-ish days.
Retirees will have their own specific minimum social security income they need to prove before they even receive the retiree visa (about $2000 USD per month). This number includes eating a fair amount of Thai food, choosing a smaller apartment, and things like that—it’s about the minimum base average you could reasonably expect to maintain long-term, and I find that it’s mostly digital nomads who are willing to live on this figure. Retired expats report minimum monthly expenses above USD $1,000 when accounting for different modes of transportation, elevated healthcare costs, food, etc.
Minimum Cost Living in Thailand in 2022: USD $650
Your baseline cost of living in Thailand is $600 as a baseline minimum for Chiang Mai expats, and more like $750 to live in Bangkok—layer your Thai visa and lifestyle costs on top of these numbers.
Monthly Expense
Minimum Cost (USD$)
Rent & Internet
$230
Electricity & Water
$30
Maid
$15
Food
$190
Scooter & Gas
$100
Evenings Out
$75
Total
$650
Chiang Mai Cost of Living: $650 to $1800
The table bears out my own minimum expenses to show how I lived on $600 USD each month in Chiang Mai (adjusted to 2023 dollars). Since I was not yet old enough to qualify for the income-based retiree visa, I did the the tourist visas and the border runs mentioned in the quick facts section above.
The international flights bracketing my stay in Thailand were roughly $800 each way, so factor that into my “fixed” costs. If you are on a tight budget then you need to consider if and how often you will return to your home country. Another digital nomad detailed exactly what life looks like on $650 a month, with an expense breakdown, too.
When you look at other budgets, understand that everyone includes different things that they prioritize in their lives. I wanted to provide the minimum so others could actually see the baseline they could then stack on top of that cost of living their own priorities, business expenses, etc. I paid more than the $650 if you average in things I pay for annually, like the $600 expense for my annual travel insurance. Really basic medical check-ups are included in my monthly fee because they came to under $100 for women checkups and basic blood work across my many months living there. If you will need to obtain Thai health insurance, this expat breaks down that process.
My two-bedroom, two bathroom rental house in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
In Chiang Mai, roughly $230 a month in rent pays for nice but basic digs. I shared a two bedroom house in the heart of Chiang Mai, within the moat of the downtown inner city (our $15 maid service was provided by my landlord and not optional). I shared the house with a roomie and fellow blogger, Jodi of Legal Nomads.
We jointly paid 10,000 baht monthly for the house and wifi. The house had tiled floors, one and a half baths, a tiny kitchen (no stove, those are rare in Thai houses), a sturdy dining room table perfect for working, and a comfy living room. It was Thai-style, so note that a Western-style apartment runs a good deal more.
Elsewhere in Chiang Mai, studio apartments run the gamut between 3,500 and 9,000 baht a month. These work well for solo travelers looking for something nice but budget. Nearly all apartments offer wifi.
The internet in Chiang Mai is better than many places, but can wildly fluctuate throughout the day (my house had super speedy internet in the am, but not so much in the evening when everyone watched TV and thus slowed the cable internet down to a crawl). That’s when you might need to factor in the price of a monthly co-working space subscription.
Chris and Angela are a 30-something couple living in Chiang Mai long-term. They report a lovely house rental outside of the moat with good amenities—they’ve lived there for several years and averaged $2,624 a month for a couple.
I don’t love that they included the cost of running their blog in the expenses as it’s certainly not a universal expense (and my expenses running this blog are half of theirs, so it’s not even accurate to all bloggers), but it’s interesting to note that only $456 of that figure is their rent. Their budget shows that one of the benefits of living in Chiang Mai is that your money stretches far and you can maintain a very nice life with just a bit more luxurious budget.
And if you’re really looking for comfort, you’ll pay USD $1,200 for a huge Western-style house furnished that is well-outfitted. Jubril from the Passport Heavy YouTube channel gives a tour of the house (minute 6:14), as well as what it costs to live that lifestyle in Chiang Mai.
Bangkok Cost of Living: Cost of Living: USD $700 – $3,000
Bangkok has a similar quality of accommodation, but the cost of living is higher in the big city. Karsten shares the most detailed budgets you’ll find for Bangkok, and he’s very open about sharing what it takes to maintain his life in the city. It’s a realistic look at what a 30-something expat can expect when living in Thailand’s capital. He spends on the upper range and he has a wife, but it appears that most of his expenses are solo?
Bangkok offers the chance to dine on incredible street food when you live there, and there’s a fabulous community of expats in the city. Here we’re on Soi 38 mowing down on mango sticky rice!
Although I am not sure, really, and his breakdown is unclear. He spends $2,600 a month and lives well on that much money. Of that money, about $400 per month goes toward a Western-style apartment. It’s interesting for anyone considering moving there to see how a $600 monthly budget in Chiang Mai compares to a higher budget in Bangkok—Karsten gets a lot for that much money.
On the other end, you can go bare bones in Bangkok and live in the $400 range (My friend Mark was living on less than $300 a month in 2011), but that’s going to be tough as that figure is tough even for Thai people who know the system well.
Even for $700 a month, you will make serious sacrifices in your budget that you wouldn’t if you lived in the more affordable cities like Chiang Mai. For $700, you are not living in the expat neighborhoods (you’re certainly not in central Bangkok) and you are eating a ton of street food, probably not splurging on nights out at the expat bars and such, and you’re not using Uber and the like.
But, you can definitely enjoy Bangkok still, grab coffees from a favorite vendor, use moto-taxis or your feet to get around town, etc. I don’t think this baseline budget is sustainable long-term—you’ll need to plan on increasing your expenditures if you live in Bangkok for longer than a single three-month visa.
What’s the Quality of Life in Thailand?
This section is a close look at what I get for the price of living in Chiang Mai. The quality of life will be similar in other areas of Thailand, it’s just the costs that will change. And the islands, of course, have beaches nearby and some other perks. The north, on the other hand, has mountains, hill tribe cultures, and different foods than you find elsewhere in the country.
What Do You Get for Your Rent?
Basic and budget accommodation in Thailand means Thai-style furniture and kitchens. This is usually fine for backpackers and those really prioritizing budget over comfort, but Thai furniture is much harder and less cushioned compared to traditional Western styles. So a budget studio apartment will likely feature an incredibly firm mattress and some heavy wooden furniture.
Thai accommodation also doesn’t feature kitchens like most Westerners would expect—there is often no stove and it’s pretty sparse. Places boasting a Western style kitchen usually mean it’s a remodeled kitchen with a stove, at least medium sized refrigerator, and a few other amenities.
Street food for the win! You eat well when you live in Thailand.
It’s for these reasons that many expats splurge and spend a bit more for Western style apartments, especially after the first year or two of living in Thailand.
To find long-term Chiang Mai spots, consider using Chiang Mai House if you are looking for help on a long-term house rental. I also collected a list of long and short term accommodation—all places friends have stayed, I have stayed, or I have seen recommended. This is also a good post that can help you imagine what places look like at different price points, as well as some solid recommendations on buildings and areas.
Notably, one ALA reader shared that Huay Kaew Residence is the best wheelchair-friendly accommodation in Chiang Mai (and perhaps the only, in his experience).
In Bangkok, you’ll likely want to find a real estate agent once you arrive; it’s the norm and is affordable. They will help you pick a neighborhood and find something in your price range. You can also start your research using this guide to apartment hunting in Bangkok.
The Best of Thai Food for Cheap
I regularly chow down on pad thai and pad see ew from the street stalls around town for about 40 baht a meal (a buck!). I add a fresh fruit smoothie to that for a mere 30 baht and call it a meal, totaling out most nights at less than US $3 for fresh, made-to-order Thai food from smiling street food vendors.
The occasional Western meal jacks the weekly food costs up quite a bit; a thin crust pizza from a farang restaurant sets you back at least 250 baht. I mostly eat Thai food, but expect that you will spend more than you anticipate on food from home—you just will. Plus, I confess that coffee is a daily habit and ice cream is a weekly addiction. iBerry, a trendy ice cream shop more fitting on a chic corner of Los Angeles than a side-street in Chiang Mai, shakes things up with tangy tamarind sorbet, a spicy roselle, and a cooler full of other flavors. Always different, always worthy of my undying affection.
Your balance of Western and local foods will greatly impact your bottom line, so consider how often you will cook your own food, eat local, and eat at expat spots.
Easy and Affordable Transportation
Chiang Mai’s small enough to either walk, push bike, or take localsongthaews around town, but I preferred using a scooter. The rental was cheap enough and zipping around town made me feel that much more like a local. Plus, the local Thais burst into giggles when I rode up to the night markets with my roomie on the back. It was easier for us to take one bike when we were hitting up the same spots, so we’d ride Thai-style, with two farang on one bike. And they loved us for it, especially since my roomie is “Thai-sized” according to locals.
If you’re moving elsewhere in Thailand, consider the different types of transport options. In Bangkok, you definitely won’t have to buy a motorbike. It’s easy to catch a motorcycle across town for a buck or two, and Thailand’s metro system is operates across some of the more important areas of town. When all else fails, you’ll just grab a taxi and head across town. Bangkok transport costs can, for this reason, vary a lot depending on how often you go out and need to use the various forms of transport.
Most expats in the Thai islands use personal motorbikes. Although the small beach communities are walkable, it’s often a bit further to get groceries, and you won’t likely live in the downtown areas since the beach communities have gorgeous, quiet communities spread throughout the islands.
Most expats in Thailand for more than a year buy a bike, but if you want to rent you’ll find the best rates when you rent for six months to a year.
New Friendships & a Big Thai Expat Scene
Chiang Mai has a vibrant expat scene. This is one of the key reasons I returned again in 2011 with my niece. I loved the mix of expats and locals and how accessible the entire town feels. Chiang Mai doesn’t lack choices for evenings out on the town. The city has a bit of something for any mood: karaoke, dance clubs, quiet rooftop bars, and bowling. In the years since I’ve left, there is also a much more vibrant digital nomad community, which has meant some new trendy bars to cater to them too!
It’s important to note that my entertainment budget for Chiang Mai is conservative. I’m not a party animal, so those who are will definitely find this portion of expenses quite a bit higher if they really like to get their groove on regularly. In fact, add at least $100 per month if you go out 2+ times per week and drink.
For the rest of Thailand, the community really differs. Bangkok has a much larger expat community spread across a much larger area. You can find expats of all ages and styles. There are communities of retirees, a startup and entrepreneurial scene, and a good number of digital nomads who want a big city feel.
The Thai islands also have a contingent of expats, though I found this scene to have a much smaller community of long-term young expats. There are older expat families and retirees, and then there is a large number of short-term partiers in the region for just a couple months.
Thailand offers great hospitals and an affordable life. Checkups are affordable and dental care is on par with the U.S. In Thailand, I don’t live in fear of getting sick and being buried under more medical debt. It’s just nice.
I am a traveler. My stories span the globe and I’ve been traveling and expat-ing steadily since 2008. Though I no longer live in Thailand (I moved to Mexico and wrote a cost of living post about it too! And as of 2023, I have lived in Barcelona, Spain for five years. Check out all my Cost of Living Guides here), I return frequently. Since my first visit, I returned to Thailand with my niece for our year of homeschooling and travel.
Participating in local festivals and learning the deep cultural nuances is one of the best parts of living in Thailand.
My niece and I made our krathongs from scratch to celebrate during Loy Krathong.
This page represents my research and experiences over the years. Many of my friend live similar lifestyles in the region. They live and work in the city long-term, and they live simply (and locally) on this budget.
It’s about your travel style.
I don’t party and I love Thai food, so it’s easy for me to eat cheaply and enjoy the many, many free local festivals that happen monthly around Northern Thailand. It’s a wonderful spot for socially responsible tourism. Thailand has a compelling quality of life and culture. One of my favorite parts about Chiang Mai was the ability to jet off on the weekend for trips around the region (not included in my baseline costs).
As a freelancer, I enjoy knowing that Thailand is a wonderful spot to live, work, and play. Below are the resources I have collected over the years to help with a move, living there, researching, etc.
If you’re still researching various expat spots, check out our other Cost of Living Guides for a look at what it takes to move to the world’s most popular expat spots.
The Basics of Moving to Thailand
Three to a bike while living in Thailand is common and part of the reason you should always have travel or health insurance.
Monks wait for alms during a massive ceremony during the Loy Krathong and Yi Peng festival.
Travel insurance
You will need comprehensive worldwide expat insurance and separate property insurance policy once you’re living overseas—I’ve used IMG Global and Clements for many years now with great success and highly recommend both. IMG Global is the perfect for insurance for covering your health and belongings while you’re in the transition phase of moving overseas, or visiting to scope it all out.
The company offers travel insurance as well as annual expat plans (I’ve used both with great success over the past decade). Once you’re in the country living there legally, you’ll want local insurance. This expat has a great guide to securing Thai Health insurance. You’ll also want property insurance once you’re living overseas—I’ve used Clements for many years now.
Learn Thai
Thai for Beginners is the most recommended starting point as it’s a bit outdated but does the lessons well. This gives you a good head start and a paper book, which is valuable for studying, but you will need more information beyond that.
You may want to hire a tutor when you arrive, or use one of the recommended online courses like ThaiPod 101 or Learn Thai from a White Guy. My niece and I took private lessons from Lah in Chiang Mai—she’s great. If you’re learning Thai for the student visa, however, you have to go through a language school.
Handling Taxes as an Expat
The Tax Book for U.S. Expats is well-priced and unique to expats and retirees filing abroad. It gives a granular look at forms, terms, and sorting out exactly how to file — good for those with complicated tax situations.
More recently released, U.S. Taxes for Worldly Americans goes broader and is aimed at younger expats and digital nomads still working and handling how to earn income overseas, pay taxes, and live a nomadic life. It doesn’t explain the terms or niche situations/forms as well as the other book, but instead acts as a guide for younger expats.
Depending on your situation, pick up a copy of one of these guides before you leave so that you will have a tax system in place that maximizes the opportunities to easily file.
Making the Move Overseas
There are a lot of general guides for moving or retiring overseas. Getting Out: Your Guide to Leaving America is the better of the “move overseas” books—it covers the practicalities and very hands-on information you need as someone considering living anywhere outside the U.S. If you’re new all the researching, this can kick-start your process. And if you are laser focused on the retirement topic, versus moving overseas at a different state in life, this retirement guide has great advice.
Cost of Living Elsewhere in SEA
The backwaters of Vietnam, a rural area of Vietnam that houses few expats—they usually live in the major cities or beach towns.
In case you’re weighing the thought of Cambodia, it’s a destination that is hard to find covered online, and Move to Cambodia is one of the best resources you will find. If you’re considering Vietnam as well, the Vietnam Cost of Living Guide covers it in depth.
Cultural Readings
Sightseeing is a thoughtful and intriguing look at the two sides of Thailand. The one for tourists and the one plagued with economic and societal issues. If you’re interested in better understanding Thai culture before you move there, start here. The short-story format makes it an easy but compelling read.
If you’re moving to Thailand, it’s best to arrive in and book at least a week in a guesthouse. And definitely consider just doing a reconnaissance trip to scope it all out. Before you book long-term, you’ll want to all the options in person.
In Chiang Mai, consider 9 Hostel or Sabai Hostel on a budget, Kham Phai for midrange, and De Naga for a nice place from which to organize your search.
There’s a heap of accommodation in Bangkok. Consider or Lub d Silom Hostel on a budget, Amara Bangkok for midrange, and Hotel Muse for a nice place from which to organize your search.
Volunteer in Thailand: both short and long term options. Can also search volunteer opportunities and responsible tourism ideas for all of SEA.
Cost of Living Comparison
Still researching the right spot to live? Our Cost of Living Guides share extensive resources on all the major expat spots around the world. These guides include thorough breakdowns of the culture, quality of life, vibe, and—importantly—budget breakdowns so you can better plan which spot in the world best meets your needs.
326 thoughts on “A Little Expat Living… Cost of Living in Chiang Mai, Thailand (2023)”
Thanks for such a detailed aticle very helpfull for Chiang Mai.
I have been living in Thailand since 2018. Costs have increased dramatically since Covid 19. Groceries (no imports) are still about 40% of the cost back in Canada. However, imports (e.g., Australian lamb, canned tomatoes or beans, pasta, salsa and nachos, etc) are double the cost back in Canada. Street food has increased by almost 50% but is still quite reasonable (60 – 100 baht or less than $4 Can). Buying an automobile is much more expensive because of the 300% tax for imports and the luxury tax for Thai manufactured vehicles. Motorbikes are cheaper but kitchen appliances are slightly more expensive (15% more) for smaller sizes than in Canada. Buying a house is cheaper, but then the quality of construction is very poor. A 2 bedroom 2 bath western style bungalow on a 50 square metre lot will run from 2 – 3 million baht ($80,000 -120,000 Can). However, almost impossible to resell the house as no one buys used houses (probably because they only last 20 years or less). Phone and internet are about half the cost while electricity is now approaching Canadian prices (Thailand primarily burns oil to produce electricity). cost of hiring workers to do small jobs is really cheap as the average wage for manual workers is 500 baht or lessper day ($20 Can). Finally health care costs…when compared to the US much cheaper however when compared to Canada pretty much the same cost (mostly because of all of the additional fees that are tacked on to your bill), but the quality is definitely inferior. Prescription medicines vary but are generally about 10% cheaper than Canada. Bottom line I spend $4,000 per month for a family of three without rental costs. We do not live exhorbitantly, but are comfortable.
I would like to be able to reach out and contact some expats to talk to and really know their experiences. I’ve always heard about how cheap it was to retire in Panama. My wife and I took a trip there to see if it was really doable on my $2000 a month pension. It most definitely was NOT! If anything it was more expensive than the US to be comfortable.
Street food is really great! There are many more options than just the fried dishes. Lots of delicious soups (khao soi=yum!), somtam is fresh papaya, curries that the vendors make at home and bring to the markets, and I love the grilled/steamed veggie vendors (I am a vegetarian, so I eat really quite healthy most anywhere I go). And if you’re in Chiang Mai, there is a really delicious (one of my favorite in the world) salad restaurants, Salad Concept, on Nimman and their huge fresh salads are only 50b
Hello! Thanks for sharing this analysis of cost. The Chiang Mai part is especially helpful because I would like to live there one day. I also had an analysis of general expense of living in Bangkok (as my partner has moved there recently!)
My question is about mine and my wife’s ability to relocate permanently to her homeland Thailand. There’s too much untrustworthy information to know which end is up (…forums, arrrggghhh, government websites, ahhhhh…) and maybe you can direct me accordingly.
Here are some of our pertinent facts. My wife is Thai. She was born in Thailand so naturally is a Thai citizen. She took up permanent residence in the U.S. in roughly 1994. She became a U.S. citizen in 2005. We met in 2009 and married in 2011. I was born in the U.S. so obviously am a U.S. citizen. I have read things that lead me to believe my being married to a Thai national somehow makes it easier for me to gain permanent Thai residence, without having to make border runs, blah, blah, blah. Maybe some kind of annual or longer visa renewal over a longer period. Can you shed ANY light of this Rubik’s Cube of information?
You’re doomed as soon as you move back to Thailand with her. She will take you for everything you got. Did you ever find out her story about how she got into the US in the first place? I’d do a little research into that if you already haven’t. As for you becoming a Thai citizen being you are already married to her I think shouldn’t be a problem especially when they see you have money.
Thanks for such a detailed aticle very helpfull for Chiang Mai.
I’m looking into moving to the Pattaya area.
Very helpful information, thanks for sharing putting together this information on the costs associated with moving to and living in Thailand.
Thanks for all the great info!
I have been living in Thailand since 2018. Costs have increased dramatically since Covid 19. Groceries (no imports) are still about 40% of the cost back in Canada. However, imports (e.g., Australian lamb, canned tomatoes or beans, pasta, salsa and nachos, etc) are double the cost back in Canada. Street food has increased by almost 50% but is still quite reasonable (60 – 100 baht or less than $4 Can). Buying an automobile is much more expensive because of the 300% tax for imports and the luxury tax for Thai manufactured vehicles. Motorbikes are cheaper but kitchen appliances are slightly more expensive (15% more) for smaller sizes than in Canada. Buying a house is cheaper, but then the quality of construction is very poor. A 2 bedroom 2 bath western style bungalow on a 50 square metre lot will run from 2 – 3 million baht ($80,000 -120,000 Can). However, almost impossible to resell the house as no one buys used houses (probably because they only last 20 years or less). Phone and internet are about half the cost while electricity is now approaching Canadian prices (Thailand primarily burns oil to produce electricity). cost of hiring workers to do small jobs is really cheap as the average wage for manual workers is 500 baht or lessper day ($20 Can). Finally health care costs…when compared to the US much cheaper however when compared to Canada pretty much the same cost (mostly because of all of the additional fees that are tacked on to your bill), but the quality is definitely inferior. Prescription medicines vary but are generally about 10% cheaper than Canada. Bottom line I spend $4,000 per month for a family of three without rental costs. We do not live exhorbitantly, but are comfortable.
I would like to be able to reach out and contact some expats to talk to and really know their experiences. I’ve always heard about how cheap it was to retire in Panama. My wife and I took a trip there to see if it was really doable on my $2000 a month pension. It most definitely was NOT! If anything it was more expensive than the US to be comfortable.
Street food is really great! There are many more options than just the fried dishes. Lots of delicious soups (khao soi=yum!), somtam is fresh papaya, curries that the vendors make at home and bring to the markets, and I love the grilled/steamed veggie vendors (I am a vegetarian, so I eat really quite healthy most anywhere I go). And if you’re in Chiang Mai, there is a really delicious (one of my favorite in the world) salad restaurants, Salad Concept, on Nimman and their huge fresh salads are only 50b
Thanks for all that useful information Shannon. I’m a Canadian teaching in Bangkok since 4 months and fell in love with it.
Hello! Thanks for sharing this analysis of cost. The Chiang Mai part is especially helpful because I would like to live there one day. I also had an analysis of general expense of living in Bangkok (as my partner has moved there recently!)
…only problem is the very unhealthy smoke several months/year.
THANKS FOR THE INFO… I HAVE ABOUT 20000$ TO SPEND ON STARTING A BUSINESS…WHAT DO U SUGGEST??
Hi Shannon….
What A Great Video. 👍
Thanks for sharing this.
The Info Was Useful And The Hint About Visiting The Thai Embassy Was Good Re.visas.
I Too Am Thinking Of The Digital Lifestyle / Nomad. So, It Was Incredibly Useful To Get A Good ‘Birdseye view’ from your Blog and Video.
Keep sharing!😉
Thanks again…
Robert
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Hello Shannon,
My question is about mine and my wife’s ability to relocate permanently to her homeland Thailand. There’s too much untrustworthy information to know which end is up (…forums, arrrggghhh, government websites, ahhhhh…) and maybe you can direct me accordingly.
Here are some of our pertinent facts. My wife is Thai. She was born in Thailand so naturally is a Thai citizen. She took up permanent residence in the U.S. in roughly 1994. She became a U.S. citizen in 2005. We met in 2009 and married in 2011. I was born in the U.S. so obviously am a U.S. citizen. I have read things that lead me to believe my being married to a Thai national somehow makes it easier for me to gain permanent Thai residence, without having to make border runs, blah, blah, blah. Maybe some kind of annual or longer visa renewal over a longer period. Can you shed ANY light of this Rubik’s Cube of information?
Thanks!
You’re doomed as soon as you move back to Thailand with her. She will take you for everything you got. Did you ever find out her story about how she got into the US in the first place? I’d do a little research into that if you already haven’t. As for you becoming a Thai citizen being you are already married to her I think shouldn’t be a problem especially when they see you have money.